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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.ohword.com/julia-beverly-ills/comment-page-1/#comment-1055</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 04:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>surprised you didnt mention her &quot;According to wikipedia,&quot; line in that piece -- a warning sign if there ever was one</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>surprised you didnt mention her &#8220;According to wikipedia,&#8221; line in that piece &#8212; a warning sign if there ever was one</p>
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		<title>By: Yooj?</title>
		<link>http://www.ohword.com/julia-beverly-ills/comment-page-1/#comment-1041</link>
		<dc:creator>Yooj?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a mess.</description>
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		<title>By: Wait, what?</title>
		<link>http://www.ohword.com/julia-beverly-ills/comment-page-1/#comment-1039</link>
		<dc:creator>Wait, what?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this the same woman who propositioned a rapper for sex? I don&#039;t know. I&#039;m sooo out the loop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the same woman who propositioned a rapper for sex? I don&#8217;t know. I&#8217;m sooo out the loop.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.ohword.com/julia-beverly-ills/comment-page-1/#comment-1038</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good points all, though I think all this damages JBev&#039;s credibility rather than outright obliterates it. other than the Ning site, which i kinda doubt she made, Beverly&#039;s mistakes seem more like lapses in judgment than deliberate attempts to distort the truth (the article -- there&#039;s too much corroboration for it to be pure vendetta) or sell editorial coverage (offering to post the single with the Boosie verse on Ozonemag.com).

her email about the latter seems like a polite way of telling &quot;George&quot; that she won&#039;t sell editorial:

&quot;This is going through my booking agency, Agency Twelve, so technically it doesn’t have anything to do with Ozone, but we could probably at least post the record on the Ozonemag.com site when it’s done.&quot;

saying she could &#039;probably&#039; post the record on the Ozonemag site is basically just a polite &#039;no&#039;. if somebody believes in an artist enough to spend 30K on promoting a record, odds are that it&#039;ll be worth posting if only for the Boosie verse; the &#039;probably&#039; is covering her ass in case it&#039;s embarrassingly bad and she doesn&#039;t want it to be seen on her site. so really, she&#039;s rebuffing George&#039;s attempt to curry favor with Ozone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good points all, though I think all this damages JBev&#8217;s credibility rather than outright obliterates it. other than the Ning site, which i kinda doubt she made, Beverly&#8217;s mistakes seem more like lapses in judgment than deliberate attempts to distort the truth (the article &#8212; there&#8217;s too much corroboration for it to be pure vendetta) or sell editorial coverage (offering to post the single with the Boosie verse on Ozonemag.com).</p>
<p>her email about the latter seems like a polite way of telling &#8220;George&#8221; that she won&#8217;t sell editorial:</p>
<p>&#8220;This is going through my booking agency, Agency Twelve, so technically it doesn’t have anything to do with Ozone, but we could probably at least post the record on the Ozonemag.com site when it’s done.&#8221;</p>
<p>saying she could &#8216;probably&#8217; post the record on the Ozonemag site is basically just a polite &#8216;no&#8217;. if somebody believes in an artist enough to spend 30K on promoting a record, odds are that it&#8217;ll be worth posting if only for the Boosie verse; the &#8216;probably&#8217; is covering her ass in case it&#8217;s embarrassingly bad and she doesn&#8217;t want it to be seen on her site. so really, she&#8217;s rebuffing George&#8217;s attempt to curry favor with Ozone.</p>
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		<title>By: sankofa</title>
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		<dc:creator>sankofa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>people bend over backwards to maintain the stupidest things</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people bend over backwards to maintain the stupidest things</p>
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		<title>By: Renina</title>
		<link>http://www.ohword.com/julia-beverly-ills/comment-page-1/#comment-1035</link>
		<dc:creator>Renina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nooooooooooo. Don&#039;t change.

I like reading your hip hop stuff. Its all that I have left. 
Sad bear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nooooooooooo. Don&#8217;t change.</p>
<p>I like reading your hip hop stuff. Its all that I have left.<br />
Sad bear.</p>
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		<title>By: rafi</title>
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		<dc:creator>rafi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Renina,

It&#039;s a great point about the state of print media but one I thought was out of this post&#039;s scope. But you&#039;re right I should have probably at least alluded to it. 

Maybe there&#039;s no realistic way to expect magazines to adhere to the old standards because the dollars don&#039;t support that model. To my knowledge Ozone does claim to operate independently though. I&#039;m not aware of any official alliances with pr or marketing agencies. Correct me if I&#039;m wrong.

And touche at your last paragraph. It might even be the case that my own effort in writing this would be better spent on more meaningful topics!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renina,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a great point about the state of print media but one I thought was out of this post&#8217;s scope. But you&#8217;re right I should have probably at least alluded to it. </p>
<p>Maybe there&#8217;s no realistic way to expect magazines to adhere to the old standards because the dollars don&#8217;t support that model. To my knowledge Ozone does claim to operate independently though. I&#8217;m not aware of any official alliances with pr or marketing agencies. Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
<p>And touche at your last paragraph. It might even be the case that my own effort in writing this would be better spent on more meaningful topics!</p>
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		<title>By: Renina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rafi,

Awesome. However you missed a whole other point here, 
which is tension for print and digital magazines to exist as an end of itself OR a marketing tool for an advertising company.

After Vibe died in June, Jeff Changs did a Roundtable titled
on the Death of Vibe and the Future of Magazines, which really got at this issue.
http://bit.ly/BhRuC

I also wrote a response to Jeff&#039;s piece and about how &quot;many magazines now have in house marketing, record labels and publishing companies, and that the magazines are just business cards for many companies.&quot;
http://bit.ly/1wH6Ri

So Julia in many ways is doing what many folks have done, albeit a bit  more sloppy.

All the above actions with regard to Julia, her lawyer
remind me of my Crack and Hip Hop Politically Under Developed Young people post. Meaning, while reading yours  I thought, what would happen in the hood if as much effort that was put into selling beats, posting post, getting people to take down post was put put into getting city council members elected, keeping Black boys from being railroaded  into special ed in first grade,  teaching young people about sexual education. All the shit that makes a neighborhood go round.

~Renina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rafi,</p>
<p>Awesome. However you missed a whole other point here,<br />
which is tension for print and digital magazines to exist as an end of itself OR a marketing tool for an advertising company.</p>
<p>After Vibe died in June, Jeff Changs did a Roundtable titled<br />
on the Death of Vibe and the Future of Magazines, which really got at this issue.<br />
<a href="http://bit.ly/BhRuC" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/BhRuC</a></p>
<p>I also wrote a response to Jeff&#8217;s piece and about how &#8220;many magazines now have in house marketing, record labels and publishing companies, and that the magazines are just business cards for many companies.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://bit.ly/1wH6Ri" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1wH6Ri</a></p>
<p>So Julia in many ways is doing what many folks have done, albeit a bit  more sloppy.</p>
<p>All the above actions with regard to Julia, her lawyer<br />
remind me of my Crack and Hip Hop Politically Under Developed Young people post. Meaning, while reading yours  I thought, what would happen in the hood if as much effort that was put into selling beats, posting post, getting people to take down post was put put into getting city council members elected, keeping Black boys from being railroaded  into special ed in first grade,  teaching young people about sexual education. All the shit that makes a neighborhood go round.</p>
<p>~Renina</p>
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		<title>By: khal</title>
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		<dc:creator>khal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i didnt realize it got that deep. i dloaded the pdf file but the mere size of an article on ignant rapper scams has scared me into not reading it. i think i might just delete it. win for Rafi for breaking it all down into its proper context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i didnt realize it got that deep. i dloaded the pdf file but the mere size of an article on ignant rapper scams has scared me into not reading it. i think i might just delete it. win for Rafi for breaking it all down into its proper context.</p>
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		<title>By: dallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you entertained?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you entertained?</p>
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